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We will counsel you on your secret issues.
This is Hello, the National Competition on Issues.
We have Joon Park from god.
(Joon Park from god)
Here's Singer Lee Ji-hye.
(Lee Ji-hye, who seems frozen in time)
Here are Kuhn and Wei from UP10TION.
(UP10TION's Wei and Kuhn)
- Wei, stretch out your legs. - Okay.
- His legs are too long. - If I do this,
- I'll get in your way. - Move over.
I didn't want to hassle you.
- Don't you want to go near Yeong-ja? - He's avoiding her.
It's not that.
- I'm sure that bothers him. - No.
- She'll be uncomfortable. - Okay.
I don't want my legs to get in your way.
It's fine. Put your leg on my lap.
- She loves it. - This is fine.
See? He feels like a nephew.
- Are you nervous? - Why are you eyeing your nephew up and down?
(Didn't you go too far?)
It's not like we're related.
(Will Wei's legs be okay today?)
Joon, you've been married for two years now.
Is there anything that bothers you about married life?
When a guy lives alone,
- we don't have to lift the toilet lid. - Right.
That sort of thing bothers me.
I get told off for leaving the lid up.
- I see. - If women go to the toilet in the dark like that,
they fall right in.
That kind of thing bothers me.
- "Fall right in." - You can switch on the lights.
But still, if you go to the toilet half-asleep, it happens.
Has your wife fallen in?
Yes.
Really?
(Joon and his wife are still falling for each other two years into marriage.)
I don't know if Wei is just really thick-skinned...
but his leg is still here.
(His leg is still here.)
- Goodness. - He's worried you'll get mad if he takes it down.
I know it'll seem like a short while on air...
but in terms of recording time,
- it's been about 20 minutes. - Wait.
- Are you... - It's only because...
he can't help it as his legs are so long.
- Stretch them out to the front. - No, look...
- Stretch them out. - No, wait.
- He does have long legs. - If you're stretching them out, you may as well do this.
(What does Dong-yeob suggest?)
Kuhn is famous as the Weather Idol.
- What is that about? - Is it weather related?
I deliver the weather on KBS 2TV's...
"Live Morning."
- You are doing weather broadcasts? - That's so cool.
(He delivers the weather on live broadcast.)
- Apart from this, I hear you have a multitude of personal talents. - Really?
Yes.
I will show you a facial mimicry of Kim Woo-bin.
- Facial mimicry? - You're mimicking Woo-bin?
So you're not copying his voice, but his face?
I see. Let's see Kim Woo-bin.
They look alike.
They do look alike.
So that's the expression you can copy.
- I see. - That was a good one.
- They look alike. - Do you have one more?
- He does... - If it's okay with you,
could I quickly borrow your glasses?
- It's not okay. - You can't.
(It's definitely not okay.)
- I can mimic Yeong-ja's face. - Really?
You can mimic her face?
- That can't be easy. - Kuhn is very talented.
(Will it be possible to mimic Yeong-ja's face?)
- The lips are the key. - Yes, the lips are the key.
That's true.
(He does look like her.)
(It's like he copied and pasted her face onto his face.)
(Kuhn's lips do the job.)
His lips made that possible.
The lips are the key indeed.
He's good.
How does it feel? Does seeing these two...
- remind you of your rookie days? - Right.
These days, it's hard to survive in this industry...
without any personal talents. - That's true.
They are so sweet, too. I was very pleasantly surprised.
Personal talents are important...
but you need to sing well, too.
(Let's check out their new song and see if they sing well.)
("White Night" by UP10TION)
(They give it their all.)
(Dynamic choreography and explosive sounds)
(Their perfectly synchronized choreography grabs everyone's attention.)
(It's time to show off their powerful charms.)
(These young men have explosive charms and power.)
That's great.
- That was amazing. - Great job.
"Do I Have to Take It Off?"
Hello, I'm a 30-year-old woman from Uzbekistan.
I really love Korea.
However, Koreans hate me so much.
When I pass by, people say, "Hey. What's that on your head?"
"Go back to your country!"
Goodness.
I didn't do anything wrong...
but people keep making comments about me.
I did nothing but wear a hijab.
- I see, a hijab. - Yes.
At work, people say, "Could you take that hijab off your head?"
"Sir, I can't take this off."
"We don't need people like you. Get out."
Just because she wears a hijab?
- When I go to the supermarket... - Gosh.
Has anyone had their hair pulled by someone for no reason?
A lady suddenly came up to me and said,
"What is this? Don't wear this in Korea."
- "What are you doing? Please, stop." - That's ridiculous. Who does that?
- How disrespectful. - This incident angered me so much and hurt my feelings.
I may look different on the outside but I'm completely Korean.
I love spicy dakbal, spicy chicken stew...
and sundubu jjigae.
I really love Korean dramas, too.
I really want to say this on Hello.
Everyone, I'm not a bad person.
I'm just as human as you all are.
I really want to get along with you all.
(I really want to get along with you all.)
People just have to accept cultural differences.
Why do they have to pull someone's hair and so on?
- It's hard to understand. - It is.
- Okay. - There are so many ridiculous people.
This is an Uzbek lady who really loves Korea.
Let's bring out our guest. Please come out.
(Who is the lady that was hurt by the people of the country she loves?)
Hello
Welcome
(So that's a hijab.)
- Your hijab is very pretty. - It's so pretty.
Please sit here.
Please introduce yourself.
Hello, I'm Hong Ha-Na from Uzbekistan. I'm 32 years old.
Your Korean is very good.
It sounds very native.
Did you make a Korean name?
Yes. I changed my name into a Korean name.
- You changed it? - Yes.
- What's your Uzbek name? - What's your original name?
We use our grandfather, father and my name.
- All of those names? - What is it?
- Abdullayeva Dilafruz Bahodirjanova. - Excuse me?
That's a sentence, not a name.
- You use your grandfather, grandmother... - All these names...
- are used. - We use our grandfather, father and my name.
- All the names are put together? - Yes.
How long have you been in Korea?
This is my ninth year.
- Nine years? - Yes.
- If it's been 9 years... - Her Korean is better than mine.
Are you a naturalized Korean now?
Yes. I came here nine years ago...
and I was naturalized two years ago.
That's how I changed my name to a Korean name, too.
- Her Korean is amazing. - She's better than me.
- Her pronunciation is very good. - Joon said...
she's better than he is.
- Wait. Joon. - How long have you been living in Korea?
- This is embarrassing. - I've been here...
for about 20 years.
But Ha-na's Korean is better.
How did you decide to move here?
I watched Korean dramas like "Dae Jang Geum" and "Winter Sonata"
- and learned Korean. - "Dae Jang Geum?"
- Yes. - You came because of the dramas.
Yes. When I first got here,
I was so happy.
I was happy because it seemed like a safe country, too.
I was very glad to be here.
However, there were differences...
from what I'd seen in dramas.
- It's different to what's shown on dramas. - Very different.
- I agree. - What's different?
What's different?
In dramas,
it seems very classy...
- and the people seem kind. - Yes. Everyone seems kind in dramas.
- Yes. - However,
- in reality... - It's a little...
cold and unfamiliar.
- The people seem cold. - Yes. There is a bit of that.
People I've never met before talk down to me.
- They do? - Yes. Also,
when I first got here, I went to a restaurant.
I asked for some side dishes...
and she told me I had to get it myself and that I had to...
talk to the kitchen staff.
She said that to me...
but served side dishes herself to other Korean customers.
- That's ridiculous. - I was...
- How immature. - so upset and couldn't understand.
I couldn't understand why we were discriminated against.
I only look different.
- We're all the same in the end. - Right.
Once, I went to buy shoes...
and when I asked for the price, it was quite expensive.
The staff asked me if I had money, and asked to see the money.
They wanted to check to see you had money?
- Yes. - That's ridiculous.
You look wealthy, though.
- You look wealthy. - She looks rich.
What's wrong with people?
Why do you think this keeps happening?
You mentioned incidents in the story, too.
I think...
it's because I look different and wear a hijab.
Once, I was walking down the street...
and a man pointed at me and said,
"Hey, what's that on your head?"
"What are you wearing on that head?"
Did someone really pull at your hair at the supermarket, too?
- There... - Did that really happen?
Yes. I was doing some grocery shopping...
and a lady came up to me and pulled at my hijab, saying, "What is this?"
- Unbelievable. - She pulled at me like this.
I said, "This is a hijab. What's the matter?"
She said, "Don't wear that here. You're in Korea. Take it off."
- She told me not to wear it around. - What's wrong with her?
If I may ask, are you currently working here?
I speak four languages.
- English... - You speak four languages?
- English. - English,
Russian, Korean and Uzbek.
We should treat her with respect.
(Ha-Na speaks four languages.)
You shouldn't be treated rudely by anyone.
She speaks four languages, after all.
I'm working as a translator...
but people eye me from head to toe...
and ask my colleagues about me.
"How is she working here? What does she do here?"
"Where is she from?" They ask such questions.
It's very upsetting...
- and hurts my feelings. - I agree.
Well...
This may be an insensitive question.
Is it forbidden to take off your hijab?
When I first moved to Korea,
I took off my hijab for about four months...
because of the discrimination.
I did try that...
but as I'm a foreigner, I have curly hair...
so some people tried touching my hair...
and people still discriminated against me.
Wearing the hijab didn't make a difference about the treatment I received...
so I decided to keep wearing it.
That's why you kept wearing it.
Yes. That's what happened.
They touched your hair?
Yes, when I first came here in 2007.
- How can they do that? - I also experienced this.
I grew up in the States...
- and experienced a lot of discrimination. - Yes.
Many Koreans...
own convenience stores in the States.
- That's right. - I was a big guy...
with dark skin and curly hair.
I went in to buy a coke,
- and the owner told me to put it on the counter. - What?
She told me to put the coke on the counter and continue to shop.
She thought you might steal it.
- She was worried you might steal. - So I complied...
and grabbed some chips. She told me to put it on the counter again.
- You must have felt frustrated. - I was.
- I was discriminated from both sides. - From Koreans, too.
Americans also made fun of my looks.
- So you empathize with her. - Yes.
I don't understand why people act like this.
- I feel like an outsider. - We don't get it, too.
Once, I went to the Dong Office...
- to get some documents. - Yes.
The woman working there asked me...
if I was a terrorist.
- A terrorist? - Yes.
- Unbelievable. - She said that as soon as she saw me.
- This was about three years ago. - I'm speechless.
She asked if I was a terrorist, then asked what was in my bag.
She asked for my permission to go through it.
I told her not to be rude to me.
I asked how she could do that to me.
Who gave her the right?
I told her not to speak like that.
I was so frustrated after that...
and I couldn't go outside for a month.
- Of course. - You were depressed.
I didn't want to go out and meet people.
But, I had to endure it...
to support my children.
- I received treatment, too. - Goodness.
Ji-hye, hold her hand.
When you went home so upset,
did you ever...
talk about this with your children?
I used to cry...
and once, when I went outside with Ji-min,
people would say we were foreigners.
They pointed at my hijab and gave us strange stares.
When they called us foreigners,
Ji-min would say, "Don't say that, my mother is Korean."
- She's smart. - I was touched because my child...
- was trying to protect me. - Right.
She wanted to protect her mother.
- I felt less alone. - Really?
Since we have...
very different cultures,
- Yes. - we don't know what kind of significance...
- this hijab has to her. - Right.
- That's right. - Yes.
In my country, I always envied...
Islam women wearing hijabs.
It was my dream to wear one...
since I was a child.
My grandmother gave it to me as a gift...
when I was 10 years old.
I was so touched and happy.
I was 10 years old. In our religion,
women are considered to be adults when they turn 10 years old...
- and they start to wear hijabs. - It has a religious significance.
- In Korea, monks shave their heads. - Right.
They shave their heads.
It's the same as that. We just have different religions.
There are also nuns...
- who wear habits. - Right.
- That's the same. - It can be compared to this.
- It's like telling a monk... - Right.
to wear robes and grow their hair.
- That's right. - That's similar.
That's what I meant.
- I understand now. - Me, too.
- I understand. - That's right.
We need to understand their culture.
There are two cute babies sitting over there.
- They're so cute. - They are.
- Are they your daughter and son? - Yes.
Let's talk to them.
- Hi. - Hello.
(Adorable)
- They're so cute. - She's so pretty.
- What's your name? - They are so cute.
- My name is Hong Ji-min. - Ji-min?
- Ji-min. - How old are you?
- I'm six years old. - I see.
- She's so cute. - Ji-min,
what do you think about your mother's hijab?
It's so pretty.
- Do you want to wear it too? - No.
- Why? It's so pretty. - Why not?
It's too uncomfortable.
I think your brother wants the mic. Give it to him.
Give it to him.
What's your name?
Say "An-nuri."
His name is An-nuri.
- Nuri? - Ask him how old he is.
- How old is Nuri? - Three years old.
He is three years old.
- An-nuri. - Can you ask him...
why he wants the mic if he's not going to speak?
(Smiling)
Nuri, where is your mother?
- Look, he's pointing at her. - Your mom...
She's right here, yes.
- He's so cute. - Did you hear people say things...
about your mother's hijab?
No.
- You didn't hear anything? - I see.
Don't people say things when she wears it?
- No... - Did you hear them say something?
I didn't.
- I see. - Okay.
- She didn't hear anything. - Is that your husband?
- He's a co-worker. - A co-worker at work.
Hi. My name is Yoon Jong-ha, and I'm 38 years old.
- I teach multicultural students at an elementary school. - Hi.
(Welcome)
You must feel bad for her...
- when you see her suffer from discrimination. - Yes.
I've seen it often. In early May,
she was in a car accident.
She was hit...
from behind by an elder man.
Most people would get out of the car and apologize,
but he said, "Why did you come to my country and make a nuisance?"
- He was the one who hit her from behind. - It was his fault...
- yet he blamed her. - It was his fault. How can he say that?
He blamed her for the accident.
How did you feel?
I stopped the car at a red light.
This person was driving too fast and hit me from behind.
I got out of the car...
and asked him if he was all right.
I asked if he was okay, but he started to shout.
- He said, "What's wrong with you?" - "What's wrong with you?"
He swore at me.
- He was trying to scare you. - Yes.
He swore and I told him...
to call the insurance company to take care of the accident.
He told me not to teach him...
about the laws of this country.
- He told me to leave Korea. - He told you to leave.
- He said if I knew about the laws so well, - That is so rude.
I should go live in my own country.
He kept discriminating and saying rude things...
- so I called the police - Right.
- Of course. - Good job.
What is wrong with him?
Normally, the husband comes...
and takes care of it. Did your husband come?
- That must have been so hard. - I had trouble...
getting along with my husband.
- I divorced... - You got divorced?
- two years ago. - I see.
I am raising my 6-year-old and 3-year-old children by myself.
- Your husband was Korean? - Yes.
- It must be even more difficult for you. - Yes, it must be so hard.
It must be difficult.
Did you think about going back?
I think you could've thought about that.
Two years ago, I was so depressed...
and went back to Uzbekistan with my children.
- Really? - Yes, we went back.
But Ji-min...
grew up here and was adapted to living in Korea.
She kept saying that she wanted ramen, seaweed,
- and kimchi. - She likes ramen.
- She's completely Korean. - Yes.
- So... - It's hard to adjust to foreign food.
Ji-min is a foreigner in Uzbekistan.
She's a foreigner there.
In Uzbekistan, they call Koreans,
"Russian-Korean."
- They call them that. - Russian-Korean.
They stare at Ji-min...
and want to take pictures with her.
Ji-min received a lot of stress from that...
- I see. - and couldn't go to the nursery.
She told me that she wanted to go back...
and we returned after about 10 days.
Was there anything Ji-min said that hurt your feelings?
Yes, when she went to kindergarten she told me...
that I didn't have to come too close to the kindergarten.
She told me to call her, and she would come out.
I asked her why she was saying that.
I asked her if someone said something.
She said her friends called me "African Mother."
She didn't want her friends to make fun of me...
and she was embarrassed.
- Ji-min told you this? - Yes.
- She said this. - Wait.
- Ji-min, did you tell Mom... - In kindergarten.
- to call when she came for you? - Yes.
Why?
It's all right. Tell Ji-min that it's okay to tell us.
Ji-min, it' all right. Tell them what you said.
Don't be scared, this man a nice man.
Tell us about kindergarten.
(He's a funny man.)
My aim was accurate.
I love you, Mom.
- I love you. - I love you.
Why are you suddenly saying that you love her?
- Don't try to change the subject. - Ask her again about that incident.
Ji-min, why did you say that?
Were you embarrassed?
I was ashamed and embarrassed.
- I see. - That's why...
you asked your mother to call you when she came?
- I see. - I understand.
Our feelings are hurt most by what people say...
and we are also cured by people as well.
- Right. - There could be many strange people that insult you...
but there are also many good people.
I want to say thank you to the teachers...
of the nursery that my children are attending.
I am an interpreter...
and I also do interpretation work at the police station.
- Interpretation? - When I work there,
sometimes the investigation starts late at night.
I have to go to the police station late at night.
- In order to provide interpretation. - It takes a long time.
The teachers at the nursery...
- take care of my children. - They babysit them.
They babysat until 1am, too.
- That's nice of them. - I'm so grateful.
Last year, when I was looking for a job,
Kim Jin from the job center told me...
not to worry, and that he will find a job for me.
I wrote a contract with him.
- Kim Jin? - Yes.
Kim Jin.
- She's very grateful. - She's so grateful she mentioned his real name.
- Kim Jin. - Kim Jin.
Thank you, Kim Jin.
We sign a one-year contract.
My contract expired in December, and I was looking for a job.
Jin Sun-mi also helped me.
Jin Sun-mi?
Jin Sun-mi and Kim Jin, thank you.
- This sounds like an acceptance speech. - Yes.
- Kim Jin and Jin Sun-mi. - They helped me so much.
Are you so grateful to them?
- Yes. - I understand how she feels.
- I am so thankful. - I agree.
They understood me, and accepted me as who I was.
- Right. - That was really touching...
and it made my heart warm.
Do you want to continue living in Korea?
Yes, I love Korea.
I'm not saying that everything is bad.
There are many kind and polite people, too...
- so I want a happy life in Korea. - Talk back in four languages if someone is rude.
Since you'll living in Korea for the rest of your life,
do you have a goal that you want to achieve?
I've been working hard to become...
- an interpreter at the police foreign affairs department. - I see.
Yes, that's what I want to do...
so I've been preparing for the exam.
- To be come a police officer? - Yes.
- It's definitely possible for her since she speaks four languages. - Right.
- It'll definitely help. - Of course.
That's one thing I want to do,
and I just want to live with my kids...
without any discrimination not just against us,
- but for other multicultural families as well. - You're right.
- It's something we need to work on. - It's my dream and goal.
Right.
You're leading a better life,
working hard with the help of good people around you...
but do you have any concerns...
for the future?
I do have a big worry.
- There's another issue? - Yes, a big one.
It's what made me...
- come to this show. - Right.
I wanted to send Ji-min to elementary school a year earlier.
- You want to send her a year earlier. - Yes.
So I visited the school to talk about it.
While I was talking to the teacher, the vice-principal...
and other teachers were making comments like, "How is an Uzbek going to..."
- "send her kid here? Can she financially support her kid?" - Seriously?
I was so upset to hear that...
and I saw the discrimination coming from the teachers.
If I send my daughter to this school,
she's definitely going to get discriminated at school.
That worries me so much.
I don't want my kids to get discriminated against.
My kids are...
from a multicultural family...
- but they are Koreans born in Korea. - That's true.
I'm upset that even though they are Koreans,
- they are getting discriminated by Koreans. - It's definitely upsetting.
The last thing I wanted to say and what worries me most...
- is my kids future. - Right.
Since...
I've suffered discrimination for so long,
I don't want my kids to go through the same thing.
It's okay for me to get discriminated,
I can handle it.
- But I don't want my two kids to get hurt like that. - Right.
I want to send my kids to good schools,
feed them good food and take them to nice places.
I want to ask everyone...
to treat us like Koreans...
and not discriminate us.
- Treat us without discrimination. - Right.
That's all I ask.
(She's been discriminated in Korea for so long.)
She came to Korea because she loves Korea,
- and the fact that she's having such a hard time makes me sad. - Yes.
As our guest here...
was sharing her experiences with discrimination...
with tears,
if we look at Ji-min,
- she already knows but she pretends not to. - That's true.
When she hears her mother talk about her hardships,
she pretends as if she didn't hear anything,
and she looks away from her mom.
She also pretends not to understand what she's hearing.
She doesn't want to worry her mom by getting upset.
We need to,
as Ha-Na asked us, prevent kids from making such expressions...
and such behaviors by not discriminating...
and we need to make a fair and happy society.
Joon seems to understand Ha-na's issue very well.
- Right? - I can even feel Joon's emotions.
- How was it, Joon? - For me,
since I'm on a TV show, I need to look happy and funny,
but I don't think I can do that with this subject.
- I just wanted to listen to her story. - Can you tell us your thoughts on it?
- It's absolutely an issue. - Yes.
She said earlier,
"Treat us like Koreans since we are Koreans."
- It's not just between Koreans. - Right.
It's about how you treat a person...
regardless of race.
- Regardless of skin color. - Yes.
- Like what she said. - It's okay when I get discriminated,
- Your parents. - but when my mom got discriminated, it was upsetting.
She didn't speak English that well at that time,
and she wanted to order a whole fried chicken...
and she said, "One" to order but the restaurant...
gave a piece of chicken and she couldn't say anything.
Seeing them treat her like that...
- I'm sure you were very upset. - I was very upset.
(He gets very angry.)
No, seriously.
- I'm sorry. You should edit that out. - He's so...
- It'll be edited out. Don't worry. - He was using so much English...
but he swore in Korean.
Of course, it's...
- very different in the States nowadays. - Right.
They even welcome Koreans because of the dramas and so on.
Our country need to become like that. It's only been about 15 to 20 years...
since Korea began accepting foreign cultures.
- Right. - It'll take a bit longer to completely accept them.
Recently,
- there was an issue in sushi restaurants. - Yes.
- The wasabi terror. - Yes.
- Many people got discriminated with wasabi. - Right.
- In Japan. - They put extra wasabi only for Koreans to discriminate.
We were discriminated even more in the past, throughout our history.
Seeing us discriminating foreigners living in our country...
is sad and ironic.
- I think it was a good idea to come here. - Yes.
- We weren't aware of the discrimination... - Yes.
that people got from wearing hijabs.
It may be hard for you as one of the first people wearing hijabs in Korea,
but it'll be easier for others in the future...
- thanks to you. - Well done for coming here.
There are many good people like Kim Jin.
- Jin Sun-mi, too. - Jin Sun-mi and Kim Jin.
- What do you guys think? - Wei should go first.
- I think it's an issue. - Right.
The fact that many people are suffering from discrimination in Korea...
- was very frustrating. It's definitely an issue. - Right.
The impression of our country...
- is being ruined by those few people. - That's true.
- I'm upset about that too. - That's why you think it's an issue.
This isn't something that individuals like Ha-Na can resolve.
It is our job to change our perceptions first,
- and that's why it's an issue. - I see.
Think before you speak and try to walk in that person's shoes.
Think about how you want to be treated...
- when you are in a different country yourself. - You're right.
- There's a saying, "Whatever comes around goes around." - There is.
It all comes back to you.
(It's a good saying.)
- Please think before you discriminate. - Good.
If you think it's an issue,
please press the button.
(What does the audience think?)
- In 5, 4, - In 5, 4,
-3, 2, - 3, 2,
- and 1. - and 1.
Would you like to...
say something to your daughter?
- Ji-min. - Why?
- "Why?" - She's so cute.
Ji-min.
I love you so much. Let's live happily...
and do things together.
- I love you. - Okay. I love you, too.
- She's so cute. - Good job.
She's so cute.
- She's such a nice daughter. - How pretty.
Let's see how many votes this issue got.
I think we have over 100 votes.
- I think so, too. - Yes.
- It could be around 150 votes. - 135 votes.
I'm guessing 145 votes.
Thanks for coming to our show.
The title of the issue is "What Did I Do to You?."
- Getting misunderstood is very annoying. - Yes.
It's unfair to get misunderstood once,
but our guest gets...
misunderstood daily.
Hello.
(His voice is funny.)
Let me tell you about my worrisome daily experiences.
The first situation is as follows. I go to a job interview.
I introduce myself.
I get dismissed.
- What does he mean by that? - The second situation.
I work part-time.
I greet a customer.
I get into a fight with the customer.
(There's another situation.)
The third situation.
I get on the subway.
I do origami on the subway.
People point at me.
What is it about?
Whenever I do something, people say,
"Why is his voice so girly?"
"Look at what he's doing, too."
"It's so weird."
I'm a 37-year-old guy...
- with feminine voice and gestures. - How old is he, again?
(He got insulted for being feminine.)
Do you know what happened when I worked at a convenience store?
"Welcome. It's five dollars."
"You're voice is so annoying. Don't make a sound. Got it?"
(That is so impolite it's ridiculous.)
- "Don't make a sound?" - What's wrong with these people?
I'm a normal guy who likes women.
Stop treating me like a weird person, please.
(Stop treating me differently, please.)
- It's like the first issue we had today. - Discrimination.
It's understandable that someone could think like that,
- but how can you say it out loud to a stranger? - Exactly.
- Right? - It's unbelievable.
- Yes. - It's very rude.
My aunt told me something. We have...
- prejudices and discrimination. - Yes.
If we want to get rid of those, we need to experience it ourselves.
It is foolish to treat people like that...
- with preconceptions. - Right.
It's ridiculous to tell someone to not speak because of his voice.
- How can you live silently? - It's ridiculous.
- It doesn't make any sense. - It's ridiculous.
We have a similar member in our group.
- I see. - His voice is very high.
(UP10TION's Sun-youl has a high tone.)
- Only Sun-youl's voice is feminine, right? - His gestures are feminine, too.
When we first met him, he was very introverted and timid.
If we ask him something in an interrogative way,
- he says, "I'm sorry." It was very frustrating to watch. - Really?
He didn't have to but he kept apologizing.
- That's because... - He keeps doing that.
- he's heard such things since he was young so he always thinks he's wrong. - Right.
He apologizes for the smallest things because that's how his personality was shaped.
- People like him always have slouched shoulders... - Right.
- and their gestures are very shy and small. - "I'm sorry."
His personality has been set that way.
Does Sun-youl feel uncomfortable about people paying attention to him?
- He accepts it now. - He's a celebrity.
We trained him.
- You trained him? - If he's too introverted,
I thought it would affect his career...
- as an idol. - Right, it's not easy to perform for a crowd.
So I made him to silly things in front of our members...
on purpose.
- You gave him a hard time. - Yes.
- But it wasn't... - Let's bring out the guest, Sun-youl.
(Sun-youl, please come on out.)
Let's invite him here some time.
- Let's get him here soon. - Let's invite him, Sun-mi and Jin, too.
(Let's invite Sun-youl, Jin Sun-mi and Kim Jin.)
- It's Jin Sun-mi, right? - Yes, Jin Sun-mi.
Who is our guest?
Is it you, Sun-youl?
Please come on out.
(Who is bullied for his feminine voice?)
He's very ladylike.
- Come on out. - There he is.
(He appears timidly with his hand poised.)
(Jung Hae-won)
He's very ladylike.
(He shyly...)
(covers his chest.)
- He appeared like this. - He was so feminine.
He was so...
- feminine on the slide. - Ji-hye, you don't have to escort him.
Why is he covering his chest?
- Why are you covering your chest? - Why are you doing that?
- Why are you covering your chest? - Why?
Just in case.
- We won't look. - Just in case.
(He keeps his hands on his lap.)
Make yourself comfortable.
Sit in a way that makes you comfortable.
- Sit comfortably. - Don't exaggerate.
- Go ahead. - Don't try to be funny and be yourself.
This is comfortable for me.
Okay, then. Sit like that.
It's okay.
How can you sit like that?
Please introduce yourself...
- in your own voice. - Hello.
I'm 37 years old...
- He's the same age as me. - I'm a 37-year-old...
manly man, Jung Hae-won.
Is that his real tone?
As you're a man,
you completed your military service, right?
Yes. I served the army for the full term of 2 years and 2 months.
- I was an instructor. - What?
- Instructor? What kind? - Yes.
- What did you instruct?
- I was in the communications sector... - I see, communications.
I'd say, "Communications Security Sector, Jung Hae-won, Sir."
Your greeting is very long.
I was an instructor.
You came here because of your issues...
and we didn't mean to, but we laughed a bit...
- because of your tone. - Yes.
- Please forgive us. - I'm sorry.
- I'm sorry. - It's okay.
Are you talking like that on purpose?
It's just that this is a very rare case.
Not at all.
My voice never broke.
It didn't break?
- If you look at my neck, - Most people like him are the same.
- my Adam's apple didn't come out. - Right, it's not there.
No, it's there but it didn't protrude, right?
- My voice... - You're fully grown everywhere else, right?
- Yes, you're right. - But...
I'm curious.
Apart from your voice,
your gestures are also feminine, which could cause more misunderstandings.
When I go for interviews for a new job,
the interviewers take a look at me and say,
"We're looking for male employees, not someone like you."
I've failed interviews like that.
Also, I worked for a long time at convenience stores...
and when I check out items and say how much they are,
customers say to me, "I don't want to hear that voice. Stay quiet."
- You have to talk to work, though. - Exactly.
So if I continue checking the items without talking, some people say,
"Are you staying quiet because I told you to?"
- They have a go like that. - That's so frustrating and mean.
Write them a message on a sketchbook for them.
- What do they expect you to do, then? - Just write on the sketchbook,
"Pay up and get out."
That's a good idea.
If such incidents keep happening,
did you try changing your voice on purpose...
to sound more masculine?
I tried to change my tone to sound more manly.
- How? - I spoke like this.
"Okay, so what are you doing?"
(Okay, so what are you doing?)
- That's really good. - He has a nice voice, too.
Then what happened?
"Okay, so come over here."
But when I talk like this,
it's very uncomfortable and hard for me.
- All our guests who came to us with voice issues said... - Right.
that it doesn't come naturally. They have to force it.
It's hard to force yourself to talk like this. This is how hard it is for them.
Let's talk to the convenience store's owner...
that you're working with, who knows what you're going through.
Hello.
Did you know that he was being misunderstood like this?
Yes. Some customers think he's gay or transgender.
- Older customers say that I should let him go. - Gosh.
- Who are they to decide? - Why are they so nosy?
- They are so bossy. - Once, we had a male employee...
and he said Hae-won's kindness didn't feel like the kind that comes from men.
- He said it felt like it was coming from a woman. - His caring qualities?
Yes, so he said such kindness...
- It was too much? - made him feel awkward.
- He said it didn't feel like a man's kindness. - He felt awkward.
After that,
I explain Hae-won to all the female and male employees...
that come to work with us.
"That's just who he is so don't get the wrong idea."
What really upsets me...
is that my colleagues and my boss...
are all suffering because of me.
That really upsets me.
- Once, a gift set someone bought had a fault. - So they complained.
The customer said, "Don't talk. Bring out your boss."
I said, "He's on his way so please wait a moment."
The customer then swore at me...
The customer then swore at me and went on to say harsh things.
"Why is guy..."
"trying to sound like a girl?"
- How could they swear at a stranger just like that? - That's ridiculous.
- The swear word the person used was derogatory about women, too. - Yes.
- That was so cruel. - A stranger saying that because of your voice is crazy.
Because the customer complained about my tone,
my boss tried to end things nicely by apologizing on my behalf.
That's not something to apologize for.
- Why should we apologize for my voice? - What is there to be sorry about?
(The person that should be apologized to...)
It really hurts...
- my feelings. - You must be so upset.
(is Hae-won, who did nothing wrong.)
Hae-won has a tendency to nod sideways when he speaks so he goes like this.
"I'm sorry."
- "I'm sorry." - People think he's teasing them.
Customers think he's teasing them...
- when they are angry. - They think he's not being sincere.
Hae-won's eyes are full of love.
- Look, he can't frown or look angry. - He's a good person.
- That's why this happens. - That's why he's misunderstood.
- Sir, you've known him for a long time. - Yes.
I've known him for almost 20 years now.
- 20 years? - That's a long time.
Wen we go to restaurants and sit by ourselves,
- the first thing he takes out of his bag... - What does he take out?
are wet wipes.
- Wet wipes? - Yes. He takes that out and says,
"Wipe your hands before you eat."
"Here's liquid soap."
If I tell him that I don't need any, he says,
"This smells really nice."
When I go and wash my hands with it,
everyone around us stares...
- That can be misleading. - as two men are acting like that.
I could feel the uncomfortable stares.
You mimic his voice very well. It may be because you've known him for 20 years.
- Right. - He's very good.
He has all sorts of things in his bag...
so he always runs out of room in his bag...
and carries around a shopping bag, too.
(Gosh)
- He carries around a bag. - Gosh.
- He carries around a bag. - Gosh. Look at this bear.
(Hae-won's bags)
- They are cute. - They are.
This is the shopping bag he carries because his bag has no space.
Let's see what he has in his backpack.
- It's yours so I won't open it. - The bag looks like a women's bag, too.
- There's... - What's in there?
- Wet wipes. - Wet wipes.
- He carries around a big one. - That's so big.
- There are smaller packets, too. - I use these a lot.
"The best for my baby."
- There's hand cream. - He uses hand cream, too.
This looks like a mirror.
- It's a Hello Kitty mirror. - It has a comb as well.
- This is my grocery bag. - What?
- This is my grocery bag. - It's his grocery bag.
If you open it up, it's a bag.
- He's very frugal. - You may have to get groceries suddenly.
- What is this? A coin purse? - Coin purse?
- I have a separate purse for coins. - What is this then?
- What is it? - That's for my USB sticks.
- There are USB sticks, pencil leads... - You have a purse for that?
- He's so meticulous. - I wonder what's stored in the USB sticks.
- This is for coins. - Here's the purse for coins.
- Excuse me, but what's in your USB stick? - What's in there?
We really want to know.
(Their eyes twinkle.)
What a man.
It's not like that.
That's for lips.
- Lip balm. - I see.
I forgot to put this on.
(I forgot to put this on.)
(My lips are worth it.)
- Let me take it out. - Okay.
- He has scotch tape, too. - Scotch tape?
Do you often give blood?
- Yes. I do. - He has blood bank tokens.
I often give blood.
These are memos.
- That's a lot of stuff. - Let's look here. What's inside?
I have more things here.
What is that?
- Stickers? - Stickers?
(Cute letter pads and stickers)
(What are they for?)
- Why do you have these? - What are they for?
- What? - Why do you carry around stickers with you?
- Why do you take these around? - Well...
- I make things. - Origami.
What is this, then?
- I fold roses every day. - That's to fold roses with.
- He folds roses. - I have some that I made already.
- He has some with him here. - Yes.
I'm good at folding paper cranes.
I don't fold cranes anymore.
- I fold roses. - You don't fold them anymore?
Cranes are for beginners, right?
- Yes. - I see.
(Laughing)
He looked at me like a beginner.
- Did you see his face? - That's for beginners.
- He was totally ignored. - Put it in the case.
After folding roses, he puts them into these cases which he folds, too.
(Each rose is made with care.)
You put it in here.
- Like this. - That's amazing.
- That's how you do it. - What do you...
(Wow)
- I fold these every day. - He's so good.
I fold them nicely on the subway...
as I don't want to waste time.
I fold these to make use of extra time.
When I'm folding these,
people in the subway ask...
why a man is doing origami.
I would also think that.
What will you do with them? Are they for someone?
- I give them as gifts to people I know. - I see.
- Yes. - Men usually make different things.
- Right. - I saw something funny on the sticker.
It says, "Love is crazy." I love you."
"You're my soul mate."
"Heartbroken." I think he likes these types of stickers.
- They're all related to love. - Do you have a girlfriend?
Yes, I have a girlfriend.
- We've been dating for six years. - Really?
We've been dating for six years.
(Amazing)
- That's amazing. - That's...
(Applauding)
- Hey. - Is this something to clap for?
- He's better off than Tae-joon. - Why are you clapping?
- I thought he didn't have a girlfriend. - It's because...
everyone was doubtful as to whether he had a girlfriend.
Although he didn't admit it,
- we were confused. - We were concerned.
When he said he had a girlfriend of six years,
- we were relieved. - Everyone was glad to hear it.
- We all felt like that. - That's such a relief.
Everyone is different.
Did you express your feelings first when you met her?
I fell for her when I saw her on the street.
I just went for it.
- He's a tough guy. - What did you say?
I asked her if we could talk.
- As soon as you met her? - What did she say?
I gave her a simple letter...
that I wrote, that was about three pages long.
A simple letter that is three pages long.
- That's amazing. - She really...
felt your sincere feelings.
What did she say when you told her about this show?
Did she say it was a good idea?
- My girlfriend worried a lot because of me. - Right.
She told me to come out and show everyone...
that I was actually a tough guy.
After you started dating her with your three-page letter,
when did you kiss for the first time?
We kissed that night.
- What? - He's a man!
He's a real man.
- Okay, relax. - You're a real man.
- He'll wrap this up. - This issue has been solved.
(Issue solved)
- This isn't an issue. - What is this?
I think he has a surprising charm that we don't know about.
- That's right. - He has big hands. Can you show us?
- Compare them to mine. - I have big hands.
- They are big. - That's his charm.
What do you mean?
- If you have big hands... - Why are you blushing?
I won't mention it.
- What a man. - Both of you are blushing.
Tell us why.
- Tell us the reason. - I have big hands, too.
- Only people with big hands know this. - Their faces are so red.
What are they talking about?
- You're so naughty. - Well...
You have a girlfriend that you love.
- The only problem is people misunderstanding you. - Right.
What's the most serious issue that upset you recently?
I'm working as a telephone operator at a customer center.
- I'm an inbound telephone operator. - I see.
I'm proud to say that I've been working...
for about...
11 years as a telephone operator.
- 11 years? - As an operator?
Yes, it's been a long time.
Some customers ask me,
"What kind of man receives calls for a living?"
- They say that on the phone? - They do that on purpose.
- Why do they call? - They don't call for assistance.
There are many people that call to relieve their stress.
- Really? - Yes, a lot of people do that.
They must such useless people.
That's right. In those situations,
- we have to keep listening to them. - You can't hang up first.
Right. That really hurts my feelings.
When you look at him,
what do you think his strength is?
- He always does volunteer work for the disabled. - That's so nice.
- He does volunteer work? - He's such a nice person.
He always has at least two jobs.
- He tries hard. - Sometimes, he has three jobs.
- He's diligent. - He doesn't do that for himself.
He cares for his family, and he's a very sincere person.
That's his strength.
(He is leading a diligent life.)
(What a great guy.)
If you have anything to say to the people...
that misunderstood you until now,
look at the camera and tell them.
Everyone thinks men should like blue and robots...
and women should like pink with laces.
I disagree with that.
Men can also like dolls.
To be honest, I think this is so cute...
- so I... - You can't have it.
This ideology has been formed by adults...
and it shouldn't be forced upon us.
I've heard so many insulting things from customers...
while working as a telephone operator.
That man could be someone's father,
- husband or son. - Right.
When you call these people,
I hope you can express at least some affection.
I really want to say...
- He's a good guy. - that people can make mistakes...
and people can be wrong.
If you think about it one more time and try to understand them,
I think everyone will be happy.
(I hope everyone can be happy.)
I feel so warm.
- We can receive hope from people. - Yes.
I think he's amazing...
because I know there are many people in the audience today,
but I compared myself to him.
He sometimes works three jobs.
He also does volunteer work.
At first, we laughed because he was so girly...
- but he's living a really impressive life. - Right.
- He's amazing. - I respect him.
- That's right. - Right?
- Right. - Looking at him now,
- I feel sorry that I laughed at him at first. - Yes.
- Me too. - I think he's a great person.
(He stayed strong, even after 37 years of biased judgments.)
(We are on your side.)
- We will start voting. - Okay.
- Wei? - I think Sun-youl is nothing compared to him.
- I really think so. - Sun-youl?
- I want to meet him. - You keep bringing him up.
I hope people who have a bias about this issue can learn from this show.
I think it's an issue.
I also thought of Sun-youl at first.
I felt the pressure and difficulties he might have felt.
- You sympathized with him? - Yes, I empathized with him.
Sun-youl isn't even here.
When you first joined our team, we tried to change you...
and didn't treat you nicely.
I'm sorry I mentioned you so much today.
I'll support you, so let's make UP10TION a great team. Let's go!
(Sun-youl, let's go!)
When I first saw Hae-won, he seemed so girly...
- but he's such a tough guy on the inside. - He is.
I think he has so many charms.
He's not in the wrong. The way society views him is the problem.
- Right. - There's nothing wrong with you.
I hope you can keep living confidently. Let's go!
- Hey! - Give me a fist bump.
- Yes! - Say, "Bam."
In 1, 2, 3.
- Bam. - There you go.
Bam.
If you think it's an issue for our guest, press the button.
(What does the audience think?)
- In 5, 4, 3... - In 5, 4, 3...
- 2, 1. - 2, 1.
Let's see how many votes this issue got.
"What Did I Do to You?"
(The result)
The last digit is eight.
- 100. - 40.
Many people might have voted since this could be a social issue.
He received 128 votes.
(This issue received 128 votes.)
(Well done.)
Many parents who are concerned about their children come to us...
but this issue is unique.
My son has one thing he loves more than anything in the world.
"Who do you like more, Mom or Dad?"
"Dad."
My son loves his father so much.
- That's strange. They normally like their moms. - Right.
- That's right. - They mostly prefer moms.
"I'm going out for a while."
"Dad, where are you going? I want to go with you."
"Son, do you want to go to the supermarket?"
"No Mom, go by yourself."
"I'm busy right now."
Do you know how it feels to be discriminated by your child?
There is more.
"Honey, can you help me vacuum?"
"Mom, do it yourself."
- What? - It is the same when I argue with my husband.
"Why are you so late?"
"Mom, he was late for a reason. Don't say that."
- That's surprising. - She must feel upset.
- I feel so upset. - How did this happen?
What can I do with this ungrateful son?
Please stop my son from treating me so differently from his father.
- This is the issue. - What a son.
He is always on his father's side.
- It's very unique. - It's strange to always be on the father's side.
- Most sons are on the mother's side. - Mothers ask you,
"Who do you like more, Mom or Dad?"
- "I like both of you." - That's correct.
But, clever children reply differently.
"Dong-yeob, who do you like more? Mom or Dad?"
"I like myself the most."
He likes himself.
- That's the best answer. - He likes himself.
- Even if I want to express my feelings to my father, - It's hard.
- it's kind of difficult. - Yes.
I really have a lot of affection for my father,
but I can't express it very well. I envy that son.
I've seen children worry about discrimination from their parents.
This is a rare situation. Let's bring out our guest.
- Please come out. - Hello!
Hello.
(Who's worried about a biased son?)
(Baek Yeon-ok)
Hello!
If he's in high school, it's hard to be close to his dad.
He only likes his dad?
- They stick together like glue. - Glue?
He only follows his dad.
He follows him around and holds his hand.
- I wonder why. - Maybe he's doing it on purpose, to make you jealous.
- Is it real? - It's real.
- Really. - Give us an example.
Early this year,
- we were supposed to take a trip to Singapore. - Yes.
My husband was too busy at work...
and we couldn't go.
- Did you ask if he wanted to go with you? - He found out later.
- He didn't want to go? - He didn't want to go.
He went into his room and didn't even come out.
- He refused to speak. - That's so strange.
- He didn't want to go with you? - No.
- That's weird. - I eventually persuaded my husband...
- and we went on the trip. - He went with you?
He would follow his dad anywhere.
- But he won't go anywhere with me. - That's strange.
I heard he was like this since he was a baby.
- He was like this since he was young. - Since when?
When he started to walk, he's pick up his dad's clothes...
and he would sniff them, saying he liked it.
I hate that smell.
- Dad's smell? - It's not a good smell.
- It smells pretty bad. - Most dads smell like cigarettes.
- That's right. - Yes.
He smelled his dad's pillow...
- and said he can smell him. - That's so unusual.
He wanted to sleep next to his dad.
I think he liked the smell of cigarettes.
Since he was young.
I really love the smell of cigarettes.
(Cigarettes always smell so good.)
- That's crazy. - Since he was young,
I had affection for him because he was a late child.
- Is he the youngest child? - Yes.
- I had him after two daughters. - You smell good.
(You smell really good.)
- She smells good. - I had him late, after two daughters but he's like this...
- so I was so upset and frustrated. - I understand.
He's not a mommy's boy. He's a daddy's boy.
(Hello, I'm a daddy's boy.)
Since he likes his dad so much,
- did you come out because you're jealous? - Are you jealous?
- No, I'm not jealous because of my son. - Okay.
He only listens to his dad and doesn't listen to me.
- He doesn't listen to you? - No.
- He always ignores me. - That's wrong.
When he's playing games on the computer or on his phone...
and his dad tells him to stop, he stops immediately.
But when I tell him to stop,
he says it's not healthy for me to be angry.
He locks me in the room.
- He lifts you? - He pushes me.
- Does his dad scold him often? - No.
Right?
- That's why. - He doesn't scold him.
You said that he was the youngest child.
- Who else is there? - He has two sisters.
- Two sisters? - It's the same as my family.
My family also has 2 daughters. My sister is 1 year older than me.
My little brother is 13 years younger than me.
He was a late child. I think you gave him so much love...
- that he's not listening to you on purpose. - That might be right.
I wasn't that soft on him either.
- I scold him strictly when he does something wrong. - I think...
he's not scared of his dad. He likes him.
- He likes him. - That's right.
- You have two daughters. - Yes.
Do your daughters like their dad that much?
They're just neutral.
- Neutral? - Yes.
Do you have no charms?
What do you mean?
- I wanted to ask. - She's so charming.
Why should a mother be attractive?
What do you think about Tae-joon's comment?
- What do you think? - Is your husband fatally attractive?
What are your charms?
- Think about it. - I'm a charming person.
She looks so kind.
- She speaks very well, too. - Right.
- What do you think your charm is? - Me?
I'm a good cook.
- That's charming. - That's the best.
(I'm so charming.)
- I can't even follow them. - Maybe...
your husband gave your son a huge inheritance.
- What? - They could have made a deal.
- He might be begging for money. - Then he'll be on his dad's side.
- He wants his inheritance. - We want to know why he's like this.
Did your husband really hand him his inheritance?
- His mother is such a charming person. - She really is.
I wonder why. Let's meet the son, hello.
(Who is the son that only likes his dad?)
I can see that your son really respects his dad...
because their hairstyles are the same.
(He copied his father's hairstyle.)
Do you like your dad that much?
- Yes, I like my dad. - Why?
Do you know anyone that's secretly caring?
- Secretly caring? - Yes.
My dad is kind of like that.
- I used all my allowance too early... - Yes.
and I needed some more money. I asked him...
if he could give me some extra money.
He didn't say anything at first...
so I thought he refused.
But later, he'd left 10 dollars on the table.
- That's charming. - Yes.
- That's a charm. - Hey, so it was all about the money.
- We were correct. - There is an inheritance.
Is it really because of the money?
It's not because of the money. We can watch baseball, soccer...
- and martial arts together. - Yes.
We have a lot in common.
- That's why I like him. - Okay.
I understand that you can watch sports together...
and he gives you more money when you ask.
However, your dad is a man.
- Why didn't you help your mother carry her things? - That was wrong.
That's really mean.
(That's really mean!)
- "So mean." - "So mean."
I thought about why I didn't help her.
I was probably tired.
- That's it? - You were tired?
Let's say you're tired right now.
Will you help your dad carry something heavy?
- Yes. - Then why wouldn't you help your mom?
- You might not feel it, - You're discriminating her.
but you're treating your mom like a pushover.
When I help my dad,
we only move short distances.
- When I help my mom, we have to walk for a long time. - It's far?
- It's too far. - That's why you should help her more!
Your mom needs more help!
Your mom mentioned playing games.
When your dad tells you to stop, you stop immediately.
When your mom asks, why do you lock her in the room?
- His dad gave him 10 dollars. - I see.
- Right. - You're a slave for money.
It's the inheritance.
When my dad starts to get angry,
- he gets really furious. - Most dads are like that.
I'm scared of him, so I listen to what he says.
Then is your mom a pushover?
I feel comfortable with her since I see her more.
- You feel comfortable? - That's right.
- What about when they fight? - Yes.
Why are you always on his side?
My dad works in a factory...
- and his work is really difficult. - Yes.
When he comes home late,
my mom gives him a hard time about why he was late.
He comes in late after working so hard so she shouldn't do that.
Your mom also works hard outside.
Yes, it's hard to do housework and have a job at the same time.
I think my mom is also working hard...
but I used to work part-time...
for my dad a while ago.
- It's about the money again. - Yes.
How much did you earn?
I helped my dad, and the work was really difficult.
I know that my dad is exhausted when he comes home.
- That's why I was on his side. - What is your job?
I work in shifts at a semiconductor factory.
- Wow. - That's tough work.
- But... - You won't have time to sleep.
- I work night shifts, too. - Yes.
- You must be busy doing housework at the same time. - Yes.
When I come home, the house is always a mess.
I have to the dishes, laundry and clean the house.
I'm so frustrated from time to time.
We took this issue lightly but from her point of view,
- she must be so upset. - I agree.
If your son is only good to you,
don't you feel sorry to your wife? I'm sure you do.
I do feel sorry,
but my son always greets me when I come home...
and brings me something to eat.
- I didn't know that she was this upset. - Yes.
I was just...
- pleased with my son's behavior. - He enjoyed it.
You can tell him to be good to his mother.
Shouldn't you say that?
I didn't think that it was wrong.
I thought it was fine since we're family.
I have a question, Sir.
Why do you think your son likes you so much?
My wife can come on quite strong...
so I think this is why he likes me so much.
That is not true.
If my husband comes home late,
I keep asking him why he was late.
He shuts his mouth and doesn't say anything.
- He doesn't talk much. - He doesn't answer my questions.
- So your son might think that his dad is losing. - Yes.
(He misunderstood his dad's behavior.)
Let's talk to your daughters.
Hello.
(First and second sister)
- We want to hear what they have to say. - Yes.
She said that you were neutral about this.
I agree with my mom's concerns.
When we go on a trip,
I always see him...
following Dad around.
He follows him like a bodyguard.
- When you go on trips? - Yes.
When my dad wants to take a picture, he follows him everywhere.
When my mom wants to take a picture,
- she has to keep begging just for one picture. - Really?
As his older sisters, maybe you can...
tell him to be good to his mom...
- and become a bridge between them. - Right.
If I ask my brother why he treats Mom that way,
he tells us what he is thinking.
He asks if he shouldn't care about his dad anymore.
When he says that, we are speechless.
What do you think?
My dad comes home late often...
because of his hobby.
My parents often fight because of this...
and my brother is always on his side,
telling my mom that Dad needs to socialize.
- You mentioned a hobby. What is it? - We want to know.
I play acoustic guitar...
and sing at a live cafe.
- Really? - You sing?
- You're a singer? - You play the guitar as well?
- Yes. - He does have charms.
- That is so cool. - He's got charms.
You don't look musical, though.
- He looks like any guy in the neighborhood. - Yes.
Do you get paid for playing the guitar?
No, I do it for free.
- It's for your enjoyment. - Yes, it is.
What time to you play till?
- I used to play until 2 or 3am. - That late?
- You don't get paid either. - Right.
- I do it for free. - What do you mean by he gets tired? He has fun.
- It's just a hobby for him. - Exactly.
Did he play too hard?
(Did he play the guitar too hard like this?)
He'll be too tired after playing for so long.
- Your mom works till late, too. - What about your mom?
- She cooks and cleans the house for you after she comes home. - Exactly.
(Why can't he understand his mom?)
Ma'am, does your husband...
sing for you like he does at the live cafes?
- I don't think so. - He sings at home all the time.
- He sings in the living room. - Is it for you, though?
- No, it's just for practice. - I see.
My daughters and I are sick of it now.
- He practices all the time at home. - All the time.
Our daughters keep their doors closed because they don't want to hear it.
However, our son stays by my husband and encourages him.
- He loves it. - Your husband must be happy, though.
- Is there something you want to say to your husband? - Tell him everything.
- There are many things I'm upset about. - Right.
- It was our 25th anniversary a while ago. - I see.
- It's one of the most important anniversaries. - Yes.
- He wouldn't come home even after midnight. - Really?
- I called and text him constantly. - You couldn't get in touch with him?
- I couldn't. - Even though it was your 25th anniversary.
- Yes, I was very upset as it was a special day. - Right.
I was so upset...
and locked the front door,
- so that he can't come inside. - You're so cool.
- Yes. - What happened then?
- When I woke up in the morning, my husband was sleeping on the couch. - Right.
(How did he get in?)
- It was your son, right? - Yes.
It was our son. He waited until 3am to open the door for him.
- He waited for him until 3am? - Yes.
Sir, you know that you were in the wrong.
Couldn't you have told your son to be nice to his mom?
Did you ever tell your son...
to do so ever?
The thing is...
our son is always on my side no matter what so I'm pleased...
- and it makes me happy. - There's something wrong with him, too.
You shouldn't smile like that while talking about this.
- It encourages conflicts. - I'm getting upset with him, too.
Since it was your parents' 25th anniversary,
- you could've called your dad... - Right.
- to come home early. - Exactly.
- That's your role in the family. - Exactly.
- It's a very important role. - Also,
if you really care for your dad, you should help your mom out...
and tell him to pretend he did it.
- However, you don't do anything... - Right.
- and you're on his side without any grounds. - Exactly.
- What do you think? - You're not truly on your dad's side.
- Am I wrong? - From your point of you?
Well...
He doesn't know how to respond because you were too overly friendly.
- Right. - Hey.
- I apologize on her behalf. - Did I do something wrong?
(I think you're right.)
These problems are happening because you're coming home late.
- That's it? - Can't you come home earlier?
- My wife calls me 10 to 20 times when I'm late. - Right.
When I get her calls,
- all the good feelings I got from singing... - They're gone?
disappear at once.
I'd know she's waiting for me if she called me just once or twice.
Will you be better if she calls you only once?
- He's lying. - Right.
- He's lying. - He's lying.
- I don't call him... - Yes.
like that all the time.
- I only call him when I'm too tired or sick. - I see.
- When you're too tired. - Once, my back was hurting so much.
I couldn't even move because of the pain...
but our daughters get home late after work... - Right.
and our son was at school.
- I wanted my husband to get porridge on his way back home. - Right.
That's why I called him constantly, but he wouldn't answer.
That day, I felt...
- so fed up and sad. - Of course. When you're sick, it's worse.
It was very hard. My son came home first...
- Right. - and I told him,
"I can't live with your dad anymore."
- "He's like this all the time." - You talked about getting separated.
- I said I wanted to leave him... - Right.
and my son's reply was, "Go ahead. I'm going to live with Dad."
"I'm going to live with Dad."
(That's harsh.)
- That was so harsh. - I was hoping...
- my son... - You were too harsh.
- would comfort me a little. - Of course.
- He's still a baby. - He is.
How can you say that to your mom when she's not feeling well?
- Don't you understand what's going on? - It was...
He doesn't.
- I heard my sisters say they'd live with our mom if that ever happens. - Okay.
If I say I'd live with Mom as well,
then Dad would be living alone.
- He was worried about his dad again. - He's too young.
You have to understand why she said such things.
- She wanted you to comfort her... - Right.
but you said, "I'm going to live with Dad."
Do you understand how sad she felt?
- Be honest with us. Did your mom upset you or something? - Right.
- That could be the reason. - Yes.
- Yes? - When I first got into high school,
I got the second highest mark on the first test.
I came fourth in that subject...
but my friends who didn't have good grades...
- got compliments and allowances for doing well. - Yes.
They got gifts, too.
- So it's about money, again? - It's all money!
(It's about money again.)
You're such a materialist.
Even if she didn't give me gifts,
- she could've complimented me. - Right.
- I'd have been fine with it, - Okay.
but she scolded me for not getting the highest mark.
(She scolded him instead.)
Your mom's very strict.
It was the highest mark I ever achieved.
What did your dad say about it?
- He... - Did he give you 10 dollars?
He told me I did a good job.
- Why didn't you compliment him? - Why didn't you?
I didn't want him to get big-headed.
- That's what mothers think. - Yes.
- You need to give compliments. - Yes, you do.
- He could do even better, you know. - Right.
You're not very expressive about your feelings, right?
- I'm not. - I think you're cool.
If your mom gives you more encouraging words, would you like her too?
- If she gives me compliments? - Yes.
She compliments you and keeps giving you 10 dollars.
What would you do?
Her compliments...
don't seem sincere to me.
- How can you say that? - What do you mean?
- You can't say that. - It's the tone of her voice.
I can't believe it.
Which incident made you most upset recently?
I was doing some housework in the living room...
and I tripped over a cord. As I fell,
- Did you get hurt? - I bumped into the corner of a chair.
- As I tried to get up, the piercing pain went through my back. - Yes.
- It was Sunday, so my husband and son were home. - Right.
- Our son was studying in his room... - Right.
and my husband was getting ready to go out.
I used pain relief patches but it hurt so much...
every time I tossed at night and when I took deep breaths.
I couldn't handle the pain anymore,
so I went to the emergency ward and got an X-ray done,
- and the doctor told me I had a rib fracture. - Oh, my goodness.
- That must've been painful. - I was so sad,
- and I cried on the spot. - Right.
I'm going through menopause so I get depressed,
- angry and my emotions are all over the place. - Of course.
- Those are the symptoms. - Right.
I don't have anyone to talk to at home,
there are so many things to be done...
- and I'm the only one doing the housework. - Your kids are all grown up, too.
- Right. - The son is always on your husband's side,
- and the daughters are always outside. - They always go...
- to meet their friends. - And your husband sings in a cafe.
- Exactly. - Sir.
Since you perform a lot at the live cafe,
can you perform for your wife here?
(Will he sing for his wife?)
- It'll be like a serenade. - Can you?
- Sing any song. - I don't know if there's an appropriate song.
I'm sure it's awkward without accompaniment, but please.
Can you sing a short verse for her?
There is someone that makes me happy
- Just by looking at her - He's a good singer.
I miss you
I'll end here.
I miss you
(His serenade was cut short because he was shy.)
What do you think?
He says he's happy just by looking at you.
He finished the song by saying he misses you, though.
That was it.
- I do feel better, - Yes.
- It's not enough. - but it's too little, too late.
- It's not enough. - If there were things you wanted to say,
- why don't you tell them here? - Son.
I hope you'd care for me just half as much...
- as you think of your dad. - Exactly.
For my husband, I don't want you to...
spend too much time outside performing...
and I want you to spend...
some time with the family.
My daughters.
I understand that you're all grown up...
and that you want to spend time with your friends,
but I want to spend some time with you, too.
Your daughters told us that your son takes pictures with his dad...
and he doesn't take many pictures with his mom.
Why don't we wrap up by taking a family photo...
with Mom arranging everyone's positions?
- It's a good idea. - Mom...
- She'll stand in the middle. - Yes, and the son can come here.
- They are all tall. - They are.
How do you take pictures together normally?
- Usually, our son stands in the middle. - Okay.
- I see. - Then my husband.
- Right. - I stand here,
- and our daughters stand on the sides. - Okay.
Yes, like that.
- Is he always the center? - Yes.
Why are you bending your knees? Is it for your dad?
- Do you... - That's incredible.
- He did it for his dad. - Stand at your mom's height!
Let's see how you take pictures normally.
In 1, 2, 3.
(Clicking)
(The son's leaning towards the father and the mom's looking at him.)
I see. Did you guys see that?
- That's what they do normally. - How would you like to take the picture?
- She should stand in the middle. - In the middle?
- Yes. - Okay, come this way.
- Okay. - Why doesn't the son hug Mom from the back?
- Good. - A hug from the back.
- Exactly. - Like that.
- That looks good. - Yes.
(He hugs her awkwardly)
It looks like you're strangling her.
You have to hug her around the waist. Exactly.
Don't strangle her.
- They look so awkward. - Look happy.
Cheese!
That was good.
- Thank you. - Do you like it?
- What do you think about the issue? - Wei.
- From the mom's point of view, it's an issue. - It's an issue.
- Right. - Yes.
- I think it's an issue. - Okay.
- How about you, Ji-hye? - There's definitely a problem,
but since they now know what she was going through,
if they'd care for her more...
with more attention and love,
the family would become much happier,
so I don't think it's not an issue.
I'm not sure. In my opinion,
it's an issue, but it's not a big one.
They just need to understand each other.
As we were listening her story, I thought of a saying.
"A mother is strong but a woman is weak."
She's been living her life as a strong mom,
- leading the whole family. - That's true.
I think that's why instead of giving positive opinions,
she was being strict. She was acting like a father.
- She played that role in the family. - Yes.
I think you need to let go of that, too.
You have to let Dad act like a father...
and be a mother who gives a lot of compliments.
The kids also need to forget about the strong, strict mom...
- and treat her like a woman. - Right.
- That is true. - When women hit menopause, they become women.
If you think it's an issue, press the button, please.
(What does the audience think?)
- In 5, 4, 3, - In 5, 4, 3,
- 2 and 1. - 2 and 1.
- Time is up. - The family should say a few words for Mom.
Mom.
I didn't realize it was such a big issue for you...
and, according to the situation,
I'll be on your side if you're right,
and I'll be on Dad's side if he's right.
Are you a judge or something?
I can't trust your judgment.
- I mean, I'll be on her side as well. - Of course.
- Just tell her how much you love your mom. - Exactly.
I love you, Mom.
- Only that much? - He's stingy.
That's how much you love her?
It's got to be bigger.
- I love you. - How about you, Sir?
You should say something, too.
I didn't realize it was such an issue for her.
Talk to your wife directly, not to us. Say, "Honey."
- It's awkward for him. - I never called her Honey before.
What did you call her then?
- How can you do that? - How did you call her?
- How did you call her? - I called her in my heart.
- Are you kidding? - You can't do that.
- Call her "Baby" then. - I'll do it in my heart.
- What's you full name, again, Ma'am? - Your full name.
- It's Baek Yeon-ok. - Call her Yeon-ok.
- Try it, Sir. - Go ahead.
- Sir. - You can do it.
You must've called her by her name when you dated.
(Everyone's encouraging him.)
Yeon-ok.
Thank you for living with me all this time...
and taking care of our kids.
I've always appreciated you.
(Thank you.)
I love you.
(I love you.)
- Are you happy? - Yes, I am.
- You're happy? - I wonder how many votes this issue will get.
Let's see how many votes this issue received.
- Over 100 votes? - I don't think so.
- Is it less than 100 votes? - I'm guessing 113 votes.
- Let's see. - I'm guessing 123.
- I'm sure many think it's an issue. - Maybe 133 votes?
- It got 123 votes. - 123 votes.
(This issue received 123 votes.)
Thank you, Ma'am.
The winner of this week is...
"Do I Have to Take It Off?."
We will give the winner a prize to root for their issues to be solved. Thank you.
Until the day we are all issue-free,
Hello will continue to counsel you.
- Thank you. - Thank you.